Get The Hell Out of Your Life

The Easter Story: For the Non-Religious

March 26, 2024 Ron Meyers, Paul Perisich, Andrew Lombardo Season 5 Episode 13
Get The Hell Out of Your Life
The Easter Story: For the Non-Religious
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During a time when the world seems overwhelmed with uncertainty, Easter emerges as a beacon of enduring hope. Ron Myers here, joined by insightful guests Andrew and Paul, to offer a heartfelt discussion on how the message of Easter and the teachings of Jesus can illuminate a path to truth and personal connection with the divine for those feeling adrift. We tackle the prevailing notion that spiritual fulfillment can be achieved through actions alone, and invite you to consider the deeper awakening that comes with embracing the transformative sacrifice of Jesus.

I'll never forget the moment a simple prayer reshaped my entire existence, leading to an unexpected journey of liberation and forgiveness. This episode delves into the powerful sense of renewal found in becoming a new creation in Christ. Andrew, Paul, and I get candid about the hesitations that accompany lifestyle shifts post-conversion, stressing that the true adventure with Jesus lies in the internal metamorphosis and the gradual discovery of self-acceptance. We share why giving Jesus a chance could be your stepping stone to breaking free from destructive cycles.

Finally, we explore the profound freedom that can be found in Jesus, even amidst the chaos of our lives and the world at large. Our conversation echoes with stories of how faith can infuse life with peace and contentment, offering a fresh lens through which to view persistent challenges. We warmly extend an invitation to you, our listeners, to contemplate a personal relationship with Jesus as more than religious duty—it's a gateway to a more fulfilling existence, rich with joy and promise. Embark with us on this uplifting journey towards a newfound hope and freedom.

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Speaker 1:

It's time now to get the hell out of your life. A weekly broadcast with real people sharing real struggles and offering real hope. Today's show will encourage, inspire and empower you to face life's challenges with a bold confidence and renewed hope. Now let's join our host, ron Myers. The promoter.

Speaker 2:

Hello, my friends, it is so good to be with you today. Well, easter, a lot of celebrations going on, and today I wanted to do a show for the people that will not be going to church, the people that just really don't know much about Easter. Maybe they just don't believe in Easter and they're not going to church. Hey, friends, there's nothing wrong with that, because you give me an opportunity to visit with you for a few minutes and why the Easter message is important to anybody that doesn't go to church or even believe in God. Hey, just invest a few minutes and either you'll like it, agree with it, or tell me to go fly a kite.

Speaker 2:

That's fine, I'm a big boy, but sometimes, friends, I just want to talk to you and bring some friends in and let's just talk about Easter. Why is it important and what will I do when I hear the Easter message? You know, some of the things that we want to answer in today's conversation and in the studios is Andrew and Paul, and I want to welcome y'all to the studios. Y'all I'm picking up that Southern little accent, since I've been here for many, many years. Why is this message important today to people that have nothing to do with the church?

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, ron, what's going on in the world today. We're living in a day like no other day in human history or in American history, we could say, at least in my lifetime. I'm 54 years old and I've never seen America like it is today, where America is suffering with such great deception. We will say People are looking for truth, ron, people are looking for answers, people are looking for hope, people know that things are wrong and they're looking for an answer. And all of these we call them seven mountains of society have government and family and media and arts and entertainment and religion and business and education. Those are those pillars of society. In all those pillars of society, we see that there's trouble and people's hearts are really concerned. What's going on in the world today? And the greatest message about Easter is Easter gives us hope, hope that there is a better way, hope that there is a God in the name of Jesus who desires to come into our lives and bring us this hope.

Speaker 2:

Paul, what's the hope that we have in Jesus?

Speaker 4:

The hope that we have in Jesus is he didn't come to start a religion which most people relate anything. You hear Jesus and instantly people put up a wall because they think religion. But Jesus is the furthest person from religion there is. So the great hope would be okay. Just because you want to develop or you even try or entertain a relationship with Jesus doesn't mean you're going to become a member of some kind of religion. It means you're going to become a member of his personal inner circle, god's family.

Speaker 4:

And so Easter we always hear about it as it's the resurrection of Jesus. Yes, actually, the main focus of Easter is the death of Jesus, because if there wouldn't have been a death of Jesus, there wouldn't have been a resurrection and Jesus came and gave his life, wouldn't have been a resurrection and Jesus came and gave his life. It's like as if you and I were best friends and you were in trouble. Would I really say I'm going to give my life for Ron so he gets out of trouble? Nobody would do that, but Jesus had to do this. His father made him come and become sin for us or take our place so we could have a relationship with God and become part of his family. So the death of Jesus was so important. And if you've never had any kind of acknowledgement of Jesus in your life, or God in your life, at least realize that Jesus was the only one who said I'm going to give myself, so hopefully I'll get a shot at being a family member, or this person will become a family member of my family and not a religious member. And so Easter is very, very focused on Jesus's death.

Speaker 4:

Now the resurrection took place because Jesus had never sinned.

Speaker 4:

He was the only spiritually alive human being there was, so he didn't belong in the place where dead spiritual people go, so he couldn't stay there. It would have been a miscarriage of justice, so God had to get him out of there because he didn't belong there. But Jesus went there on purpose. So any human who is not spiritually alive will go to this place called hell. But they don't have to stay there if they accept what Jesus did for them and that's the whole thing of Easter there. If they accept what Jesus did for them and that's the whole thing of Easter Jesus did something for them so they don't have to go to a place that they will naturally go by default because they're spiritually dead. But if they just accept him taking their place for them, they get the gift of his life, which is resurrection, life, and that's the whole doctrine of Christianity we will rise from the dead. Jesus rose from the dead because he was spiritually alive and by choice became spiritually dead so he could get the spiritually dead to the place of spiritual life.

Speaker 2:

You know, I appreciate all that someone is saying, but listen, I do good things. I feed the people at the soup kitchen and I visit the elderly at the nursing home. I do good things, so I'm going to be in heaven. I'm doing all the right things, so why do I need Jesus?

Speaker 4:

You probably do those things because perhaps your parents taught you to do that or in your heart is to do good things, which is great. But when Adam and Eve died spiritually, they had not had any children yet. So when they started having children, everything reproduces after itself and they reproduced a human race that was all spiritually dead. So God lost his son, adam. You can see it. If you read anywhere in the book of Matthew, you'll see that Adam was God's son. God's first son died. Oh, I thought that Jesus was God's first son. Jesus was God's first begotten son or son by birth. Adam was God's first son by creation.

Speaker 4:

So when Adam died spiritually and started having children, all of the human race was born spiritually dead, naturally separated from God. So there had to be something take place to get man out of the spiritual death, and the only way to do that was have someone who's spiritually alive give their life in the place of the spiritually dead. So we do good things and our good works won't ever get us into spiritual life. Only a sacrifice of a spiritually alive person would get us into spiritually alive. And so it's great to do the good things, but if you leave the earth or you leave your body in the condition of spiritual death, you will by default go to the place where the spiritually dead people go, and that's separated from God forever. That's the simplicity of Easter he gave his life so you can become spiritually alive.

Speaker 3:

So what you're talking about, ron. You know many people are trying within themselves to do good works. Like you said, go to the soup kitchen. I live a good life. I go to work, I pay my taxes, I do good, I obey the law. You know I was good to my kids. I'm kind to my wife. You know we give to charity, we give to St Jude.

Speaker 3:

We do these things and we try to do these things because some way we think that our good works are going to gain us entrance to heaven. And somehow God's got this big logbook in heaven and when I get there my good works are going to outweigh my bad works. Well, the Bible is really true, ron, where it says that we're not saved by our good works. Our good works will never gain us entrance to heaven.

Speaker 3:

What Paul was just talking about is how we gain entrance to heaven. We gain entrance to heaven for one reason, and one reason only. Jesus said I am the doorway to heaven. Jesus said I'm the way, the truth and the life to heaven. If you're going to go to heaven, the only way to get into heaven is to accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross. That's what Easter is all about Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. Probably the most famous scripture verse in the whole world is John 3, 16. Everybody knows it, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. That's what it says whoever believes in him receives eternal life.

Speaker 2:

I grew up in a Catholic church, going to church every day, because I went to a Catholic school and we went there on Easter. But I grew up religious. I mean, it was just a tradition, it was ritual. But something happened in my late 30s when I decided to leave religion and step into Christianity. I went from a knowledge of Jesus to a relationship with Jesus. Someone might be on the fence about Jesus, so their question might be what will my life be like if I give all this stuff up that I'm doing and begin to follow Jesus? Will I have to join a special group and have a secret handshake? Will I have to wear certain things on my head? What's going to happen when I take Jesus?

Speaker 3:

Well, I can talk about for me. What happened to me was I was in the United States Navy Seabees. I grew up like you, ron, I grew up Catholic. So I grew up very religious. You know, I went to Easter and Christmas and did those religious things but I never had a relationship with Jesus. And when I got into the United States Navy Seabees I went on deployment.

Speaker 3:

Well, I got in trouble and I was arrested for doing some things and it wasn't good and I was set before a chaplain. They said before you make any more decisions, you need some counsel. So they set me before a Navy chaplain and the Navy chaplain, for the first time in my life, talked to me about the law of God. I knew the Ten Commandments but I never really knew them. And he walked me through the Ten Commandments and he asked me what are you going to do on the Day of Judgment when you stand before God? And you violated all of his laws. And he asked me you know so? Have you ever told a lie? And I said sure. And he said so. That makes you a liar. And one of God's commandments is don't lie. And he told me what sin was, which I never really had a definition of sin.

Speaker 3:

Everybody lies. So we tell lies because we want to get away with things, but on the inside of us we know it's wrong because God's wrote his law in our heart. So because he wrote his law in my heart, I know that I was a liar, even though I got away with it. He said God knows everything about you, so he knows that you're a liar. Well, one of his commandments is don't bear false witness, don't tell lies. So on the day of judgment, if you stand before God and you've broken all of his 10 commandments and he took me through all 10, and I realized I broke them all he said what are you going to do? God's judgment is on your life.

Speaker 3:

And because of that I realized I don't know. I said I don't know what I'm going to do and for the first time I really felt the judgment of God that, oh, my goodness, if the Catholic church is really right and Jesus is really who he says he is, then there really is a heaven and there really is a hell. And how do I get to heaven? And I never had that because I had religion, but I never had this relationship. And then he said I said, well, I don't want to go to hell. What do I need to do to get saved?

Speaker 3:

And he gave me a Bible and I read the Gospel of John and I came back and I really didn't know what to do and I said could you help me? He said you need to turn from your sins, you need to repent and ask God to forgive you. At that moment I've never done that in my whole life, where I realized that I had to ask Jesus to forgive me. And when I asked Jesus to forgive me and I accepted his sacrifice Lord Jesus, I've done wrong, I've violated all your laws. I've broken all your commandments. I don't live for you at all. I treat you like nothing and I ask you to forgive me for doing that. Forgive me of my sins and I want to have a relationship with you. And when I prayed that simple prayer, not even knowing what I was praying because the chaplain helped me my whole life changed. Wow, because I became it wasn't religious anymore.

Speaker 2:

Jesus really came and began to help and really that is the point of this special program today with Easter. We want them to know that Jesus believes in them, believes in them, god believes in them, yes, sir, and has a plan and a life for them. And, paul, if I would have known that my life with Jesus would take on a whole new meaning when I began this relationship, maybe I would have done it sooner. You know, I don't know. God's timing is perfect timing. But there are people out there on the fence right now that they want something different in their life and we are telling them that if they take Jesus in their heart and accept Jesus, they become a new creation, their sins are forgiven and it's like they have a clean slate. Are you sure about that, or can? If they say, well, this isn't true, I want my money back?

Speaker 4:

If it didn't work, there wouldn't be so many bold Christians who love to talk about it. Amen, brother.

Speaker 4:

That gives you a good idea right there. And you had asked am I going to have to get rid of all this and that and then start wearing this funny hat and wearing these funny clothes if I become a Christian? How about forget becoming a Christian and just realize, when you ask Jesus to help you and you give him access into your life, you will never be ashamed that you did that. Jesus isn't asking you to change your clothes or to change what you're doing. All he's asking you is give him a shot at your life by calling on him. There's a scripture that says whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord, which is Jesus, you will never be ashamed. So let him be the man who's big enough to back up that scripture right there and prove it in your own life, just by you saying okay, jesus, I'm going to give you a shot at my life, I'm asking you to help me.

Speaker 4:

And then the things in your life that are destroying your life. He'll start working on helping you get rid of those things, whether it's any form of addiction or whether it's unforgiveness. Give him a shot. He'll start working on those to get those out of your life. And then the things that he wants in your life. He's not going to make you do something drastic. Some people maybe he will, because they have ability to do that, but most of us it's tiny, tiny things that he does in our lives and his whole purpose is to help us. In fact, the Bible says let us therefore come boldly to the Lord and ask for his help. So he's all about helping, not about conforming. He's all about you giving him an open door, access to transform you or change you or make you be the person that you will even like being and that's so nice when you like yourself because you realize he's the one who gave me an ability to enjoy where I am and who I am.

Speaker 2:

Are you saying? Andrew said a few minutes ago that a lot of people are concerned of what's happening in the world and they're looking to politicians for answers? Are you saying that the troubles that we have in our life and in this world can only be resolved by?

Speaker 4:

Jesus. The troubles in the world are going to get worse and worse. Probably, the problems that come into your life are going to get worse and worse and greater and greater. But the ability to go through them and be content as you go through them is so much easier. That's the whole purpose of the Lord is to walk us through the things in life. In fact, in Psalm 91, the very end of it, it says I will be with him in trouble. So there's troubles that are coming. So I can't say that when you have a relationship with Jesus that your life is going to be trouble-free. So I can't say that when you have a relationship with Jesus, that your life's going to be trouble-free. No-transcript for your help.

Speaker 2:

You know and Andrew, you and I were talking before we went on the air having some coffee is the freedom that I received by bringing Christ to my heart. I lost all the baggage of sin, of fear, of doubt. All of a sudden I realized that I was free. I was free of my past. Jesus had a plan for me. He wasn't condemning me, he wasn't shaming me, he wasn't making me feel guilty. I was beginning to feel alive, that I finally. It was kind of like the caterpillar turning into a butterfly. It's like a transformation. I didn't know what happened, but I sure felt good, and I don't think it was the pizza I ate the night before. I really do believe I felt the rebirth, the rebirth of my spirit.

Speaker 3:

Well, the same thing. That's great, ron, because the same thing happened to me, because I was religious. You know, when I prayed that prayer and I asked, the Lord gave like Paul just said, gave him a shot at my life I experienced for the first time peace with God. You know, just like you said, peace it was just peace from God. I finally had this peace that I've never had before. All my sins were forgiven and you felt it. I mean, you really felt it.

Speaker 3:

You knew after that happened to me it wasn't 10 seconds later I knew something changed. So I had peace with God, all my sins were forgiven and then I had a brand new start at life. I walked outside and I saw things and experienced things and filtered things through my own life differently. I began to see it because my spirit on the inside became born again. That's what happened. I came from spiritual death to spiritual life and that's what Jesus did. He came to live inside of me and that's when I experienced all these wonderful things that we're talking about and that is the point of today's show the celebration of Easter.

Speaker 2:

Now, maybe some of you have given up on religion, maybe Christianity, maybe a church has hurt you, Maybe somebody has lied to you, but Jesus wants a personal relationship with you. You're never going to be in a world where you're going to be around people that do all the right things and say all the right things. You cannot base your theology on what people say about you or how they treat you. Base it on the fact that Jesus is crazy about you. He's madly in love with you and would love to do life with you. Paul, you know we're about out of time, so right now it's your turn.

Speaker 4:

If you find yourself in a place where someone's hurt you so you've got unforgiveness. Every day it's with you. Or you're addicted to something, or you just can't stand something else going on in your life and you wish you were free of it. Jesus isn't a religion for you to try. He's the only one who will give you a relationship that will be the landmark thing in your life, that your life will definitely start taking a turn, to get you free from the things that you hate that are going on in your life. So today I'm asking you and I'm telling you it would be the best decision you ever made in your life. You turn to Jesus and, whether it's Easter or not Easter, thank the Lord that it is Easter season and you turn to him on your own and you say Jesus, I'm going to ask you to help me in my life. I'm going to receive you as the one to save me and help me, and I'm looking forward to what you're going to do in my life. Or I'm just going to check you out and see if you're going to do something to change me and watch what he'll do.

Speaker 4:

He is the only person who is not a religious figure. He is a real man, the real Savior, and he will really step into your life and start the process of changing your life into what he would like you to be, which will be so satisfying to you that you will say thank you, ron Myers, that I listened to your show today. Thank you, jesus, that you did change my life. I promise you you will be 100% so thrilled that you did this. A year from now, you will be jumping for joy. 10 years from now, you'll be jumping for joy. So do it. Do it now, jesus. I'm asking you to come into my life and help me. You will do it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's with our listeners here. I know there's real problems out there, there's real hurts, but all of us experience that and the only reason we can share Jesus with you is because he really did fix us. And you know what? We still have some issues where we're fine tuning, but we're happy. We're a happy camper, we know we have a purpose, we have a destiny. We're a happy camper, we know we have a purpose, we have a destiny, and when I get up in the morning, I anticipate problems that will come my way, because I'm not going to be caught off guard because I'm doing life with Jesus. So I just say, hey, lord, I don't know what we're going to come up against today, but I want you to know that I love you and thank you for leading me today. Encourage me and inspire me Sometimes, andrew, a person to be encouraged and inspired by Jesus and just feel his love that's all you need, and then the rest begins taking care of itself. So you have a church. Tell us about your church.

Speaker 3:

The name of our church is called the Mission Church and Training Center. We're at 21025 Success Road in Socher, mississippi. Our Sunday morning services are at 1030. Every Sunday morning. We do have our Sunday morning prayer meeting. That goes from 930 to 1010. We have our midweek service on Tuesdays. It's a Tuesday night Bible training and we do intense Bible studies and we're in a whole 10-week series on healing.

Speaker 2:

You too. Thank you, I hope this has helped. I believe it has. God orchestrates these shows and helps somebody out there that is struggling in life, and they happen to tune in. Paul, will you close this in prayer Sure.

Speaker 4:

Father, I thank you for the opportunity to get into the ears of people who are crying out for help. They see the direction that the world's headed. Maybe they don't see that because their life has always been in a state of delusion or turmoil or misfit or dysfunction. So I thank you that these words that they heard today are guiding them to calling on Jesus for his help. No matter where they stand, You're there with them right now. I ask you to let them feel your presence and let them have the understanding that you are calling them right, where they are as clean as they are, as important as they are, as least important as they are, that you want them to be in relationship with you and I thank you for doing that, Father and for them to experience what we've experienced when we've said Jesus, I need you. So I'm asking you to help me, Save me. Thank you, Jesus, Amen.

Speaker 1:

You're listening to Get the Hell Out of your Life with your host, ron Myers. Real stories, real struggles and real hope.

Speaker 6:

Have you ever been falsely accused, your reputation tainted, your good name besmirched, blamed for something you just didn't do? It leaves us shaken, angry and frustrated. We know we're being unfairly judged and don't deserve this treatment. Jesus knows all about that. When he went to the cross, he was dying for sins he had never committed. The Bible says he never sinned, but God laid on him the iniquities or the sins of us all. Jesus died for the sins he didn't commit so that you and I could be forgiven for our sins. Jesus needed to do this if we're to be able to be forgiven, as we have no other way of paying that price for ourselves. If you'd like to know how you can begin a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, I invite you to call or text us at 888-NEED-HIM. That's 888-NEED-HIM.

Speaker 5:

Ron will be back in a moment to wrap up today's conversation. Did you know what Ron did before he discovered his destiny? He was a promoter of secular entertainment and, by his own admission, he promoted anything he could make a buck at. At the pinnacle of his success, he walked away from it all so he could follow Jesus and discover his God-given destiny. That was over 20 years ago and he has never looked back. Today he's an inspirational speaker on a mission to empower individuals just like you to discover their God-given destiny. Ron put his story in a novel entitled the Promoter and he wants to give you a copy.

Speaker 2:

My story is proof positive that God's plan for you and I is greater than all of our mistakes.

Speaker 5:

Here's what a few readers have said. I could not put it down. I cried, giggled, gasped and laughed out loud. Ron has written a novel and self-help book all in one the best book I've read in a long time. This book is a message of hope. To request your free copy of Ron's novel the Promoter, visit our website at thepromoterorg.

Speaker 2:

Now back to Ron, I told you at the beginning that I am just talking to one person today, the one that is not going to church, the one that's all alone, has been left to just fend for themselves. It's tough. Unbelief, doubt, uncertainty enters into your head. I know I've been that. That's why I am so passionate about who Jesus is Not church, not a denomination. I gave up on that.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to listen to man's opinion of how I worship Jesus. I want to believe what Jesus said the finished works of Jesus. My life is different. My life is passionate, my life is great. I have no guilt. I have no condemnation. I have an intimate personal relationship with Jesus. Save for eternity, whether I ever step foot in a church or not. Period. That is the gospel of Jesus Christ. So today it's your choice. You're a big man, you're a big woman. You can make a decision. I would strongly suggest, when you really feel like you cannot go on, just say Jesus, I need you, I need to see that you're real, I need to touch the ham of your garment. That's all you need to do, friends, and the rest will take off. I know it happened to me. It happened to the hundreds of people that I've interviewed.

Speaker 1:

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